FILE DATE: November 20, 2023 | STATUS: LOGGED
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Source Link: Watch on YouTube Channel: Zugzug Zugzugson
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What you are about to witness is someone who, for once, puts aside the troll character in order to ACTUALLY try to help someone, and just as expected this retard proves he doesn’t the deserve the spit under my boot let alone the boot of anyone else. This man cannot be helped. He belongs in a straight jacket. I Will give everything i own to the therapist who manages to get through this dense motherfucker, because he is an absolute basketcase.
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**[00:00]** loved and cared for okay how can I help you with that I don't know are you nice to your family I'm very nice to my family very wholesome well do you consider me family no not really I don't know you sir okay well there you go I don't want your stupid advice then yeah you just recited what you just said back to me earlier you just you just you just admitted you don't know me so there
**[00:30]** you well I do know you but you said I don't no no no no no don't change it around now you just so yeah exactly do I know you or do I not know you you obviously don't cuz you just admitted it right so there you go don't give me any advice ever okay so I don't know you in real life I know your internet persona it's is that and you don't consider me a family and
**[00:54]** you don't consider so you if you don't if you don't want want to make something out of love if it's not from a point of love I don't want to hear it cuz you have don't have good intentions for me and that's the problem and that's why your I actually do I have not only not only well then you would if you consider someone family they have good contentions for them what do you consider me then
**[01:18]** if not family I mean you a guy I know is that not okay is that not good enough I suppose the reason I'm not considering your family is because we're not related like we are not you know blood uh related so so but you do cons a friend in some way I don't know I pity you a little bit because it's I don't know what to say it's kind of sad to see you in this way
**[01:54]** okay is that good enough so you look down on me in a way do you not look down on me in a way of course you see so it's a two-way street yeah but you're the one engaging in it isn't it I'm not I'm not trying to be antagonistic here that's you're you're contradicting your own statement what statement well you're saying you're look down on me but then that's not antagonistic that's just the way I feel
**[02:38]** right now I I think you were misinterpreting what what pity means like I can pity a homeless person on the street I still give him money is that not a good deed I can pity a homeless child in Africa and I can also make fun of him what if I told you I don't need your pity I mean I would say the facts are what they are I mean you can say that right but you do
**[03:05]** seem like you're in bit of a need of a talking to right now I can want to talk to people but I don't I can also not need their pity but you see it it kind of starts with that right you have to build up a little bit uh so I don't think so I think you're just in the wrong why am why am I in am I am I wrong in saying that you are depressed
**[03:35]** right now and you need to someone to talk to like you you need some oh that's some uh that's correct that's correct okay good we got that established then you look I'm not trying to like get you here like I heard you say earlier that uh the reason I asked you about the weed stuff is because I'm trying to get you to prison when have I ever called the cops on you name one time but that's
**[04:04]** that's the problem right is that that's why I don't need your pity okay let's let's forget about the pity thing okay no because I think it's very essential I think the the very fact that you look down on me is the very fact why we we never can communicate you you're looking down on yourself how can I not if you are doing it I don't look down on myself you look down on me you're you're looking
**[04:29]** down because you're sitting there saying that your your life is miserable no one wants to be your friend everyone hates you that's self-pity that's just stating facts yeah but okay that's just being a realist okay let's call it that then let's call it that look I'm not I I I adjust to my circumstances not the other way around okay look the reason I asked you about the the weed is because it is a but you get
**[05:02]** that right you get that that it's the other way around because you don't seem to get that okay I get it I get it I'm reacting to my environment and then I say this sucks this sucks it wasn't like two months ago that's that's all I can say it's like this wasn't like this two months ago what happened something happened some like I was happy two months ago now I'm just [__] miserable all the [__] time
**[05:22]** I want to [__] like not exist where did that come from what it didn't come from inside what made you happy two months ago well two months ago I was able to do whatever I wanted to do and have freedom in my life I didn't have people dictating where where I should go what I should do and what what they think of me and so on so on so so isn't that the life of a streamer
**[05:47]** though like the your chat dictating what you should be doing so that you can entertain your chat you know it's a two-way street again not like that as I said I don't need your pity okay we're we're a little bit past the pity you think can we try try to move on here no no no cuz we still at the pity because that I don't need pity don't need your pity don't need anyone's pity okay don't
**[06:08]** need anyone to look down on me ever okay so you you said that I was trying to like get you with with the uh the weed thing what what do you mean by that I'm not interested in that anymore so how you're interested in then I'm just interested in people learning how to care and love for me show compassion yeah but I want compassion not pity I want compassion other people want compassion as well like you
**[06:39]** are not very good at showing other people compassion if you mind me say that you are constantly pushing people away by Banning them and being mean to them like you it didn't take you five minutes before you were shitalking me in your stream after I hang up the last time I think I'm capable of showing compassion okay capable when was the last time you were compassionate towards someone like today I'm talking with you right now is
**[07:08]** that compassion to you yeah I think it is because you do nothing but annoy me and you you're being compassionate because you're talking to someone who wants to like help you stop moping around and maybe cheer up a bit how is that compassion because I see you as a sufferable person so I call you and you're like you you you just can't help it you're talking like you being really mean how do you expect people to
**[07:32]** be compassionate when you talk like this to someone cuz like you're really rude why can't you just be nice I'm being nice why can't you do the the same thing maybe it's cuz you can't do the same thing am I not being nice right now um am I not trying to help you right now well that's the thing is that uh so means I'm being nice right can you try to be nice back so we can
**[08:00]** like maybe get somewhere here but do I do I owe you to be nice to you I'm not saying you owe me it's I'm saying if you want people to be nice to you you need to be nice to them if you're not nice to them people yeah you're nice to M you're nice to like you're your lady uh women mods like that those are the people you're nice to everyone else is like free freefor all
**[08:29]** no I'm also nice to other people name someone who who are you nice to I'm nice to half asleep gaming I'm nice to Sammy I'm nice to Sammy is a woman she don't count okay well I'm also nice to juice you know juice was a juice was a piece of [__] to me and then I was a piece of [__] to him and now he treats me with respect and I I'm pretty sure I treat him
**[09:00]** with respect ask juice actually juice do I if I ask if I ask you if I line myself with with other people would you say that's true you know zok can just choose another path and he will have respect and he will be treated properly I am treated properly when was may I ask you a question when was the last time you took a walk outside just for the sake of taking a walk are you doing
**[09:27]** juice um so Z I want to talk about the pity and the compassion oh my God sure go on it's not good with pity no yeah you're right ju thank you okay fine I I will stop pying you should I go back to how I usually am and then just start like [__] on you instead is that what you want no you should you should consider what is compassion I know what compassion is I'm actually a
**[10:06]** very compassionate person you would know that if you actually knew me to you I'm just a troll that does nothing but annoy you that's because you actually don't know me I know you though no you don't I must insist you don't okay fine that is uh something we could debate until like hell free is over exactly and you'll never get it so when was the last time you took a walk for the sake of taking a
**[10:34]** walk when was the last time you were out doing something that wasn't just sitting in your couch what do you think what do you think the difference between pity and compassion is well there there's obvious differences there comp there is yeah MH do you know what the differences are yeah yeah but I'd like to hear if you know well you know I'm not a [__] philosopher but obviously pity is one thing like pity is when you
**[11:04]** well is when you give a homeless man money because you you you feel like he needs help or something being compassionate I'm struggling to find an example is um well maybe I don't know you tell me what is compassion compassion is when you give something out of your heart and don't I do that right now because you care because you care about the other thing what other thing you care about the thing that you give compassion
**[11:42]** to because you love it you love that thing so you give compassion to it it's like sing or wh knighting or car caring about your mother or taking care of the sick or I don't know caring for a cat or I don't know a adopting um something that's compassion all right than I think I actually I I get what you mean now okay fine and so I want compassion and not pity all right can I have
**[12:14]** some compassion though absolutely absolutely zzo okay so what I wanted to do today was uh have a bit of a session with you right because you you are you're very hostile you're generally hostile right to people like if they're not nice to you you uh you flip out and you you sort of react in a way that invites the behavior even more maybe in the past but do you think that's that results in you being in
**[12:47]** a bad mood on stream cuz people won't leave you alone because you you are inviting in the the really bad behavior right you're inviting the trolls and I I think to a that is true some of that is true but I don't know about inviting trolls I think to a degree that you kind of rely on the trolls for your content because you know it's an angle of it okay but at the same time you want
**[13:17]** them to just go away right you want them to leave and just leave you alone forever if that happens what would you then do I say a lot of things uh Z everything I say on the Stream is a it's a mental construct of a character and a stream it's a It's Entertainment in some ways so people can do it doesn't mean that there's a person behind that has to play all the characters and play all
**[13:41]** the spots and that's all I'm saying is that you should have compassion for that person behind but shouldn't you according to that logic then shouldn't you also have some compassion to the trolls that are actually allowing you to have some content absolutely absolutely to a degree without them what would you who called you today well you did I was actually playing sh I had no intention of uh of doing anything today other like trolling or anything
**[14:06]** like that then I saw you call three times and I checked your stream you were super depressed Then I then I called back right and I called you back and your initial Behavior was very hostile but isn't it funny isn't it funny that I call you on on today and not like other days or isn't it funny it's funny it's funny that you only call me when you're depressed and sad why why do you never call
**[14:29]** me when you're happy for example no no no no no no well maybe maybe but maybe there's also a point in that but have you noticed how when you give up on it and you and you let it go and and it and you go away and that's when I call you that's when I start caring about you have you noticed that that makes no sense so when I actually leave you alone you call me so
**[14:49]** I can come and piss you off more that doesn't make sense no no so you come come back and have a new chance again and do it over again so you can see so can you can show what you've learned I I am through with like I cannot make any more burner accounts how many chances like how am I I can't keep going oh okay that's good that's good then my I have exhausted every single re
**[15:15]** venue for making new emails that's what you mean by new chances how many chances like that's good Zug Zug because that means there is a chance for you there is still a chance for you because now that you kind of run out of options now we have options Now options come out on the table I mean I don't know I don't think I would be that much worse off without being able to troll you honestly I've
**[15:39]** been fine like the past four years or whatever six since I last saw you yeah I know I know and that's why I'm saying that I think that this talk today about compassion and pity is Sever is is certainly a lesson that I think we could go really far with if you if you take that under your skin and you think about that reflect on that compassion versus pity think of friends versus right because you align
**[16:05]** yourself with pity you will definitely align yourself as being below me that's what pity does so reflect on that and try compassion see where I don't want to like get like into that I don't see myself as below you I don't think many people do to be honest with you no no but if you see I I don't spend like the better part of every day s there being sad for myself I know I know but
**[16:32]** here's the thing if you see yourself as above me you become below me why is that that's just how it is that's a weird way that's a weird life perspective certain people are just above me that's just a like Leonardo dicapro he's above me like does that not mean I can pity him for his own issues like rich people have problems too for example like they uh they get used by their so-called friends no I'll tell
**[16:59]** that's something to pity that's that's a uh something about rich people to pity like they can't really make any real friends okay well here's that's the advantage of being poor you know when someone wants to be your friend like they're actually your friend that they're not there to just get something out of it I know I know that's why it's nice to be poor isn't it I don't mind I get poor and ugly I wouldn't say
**[17:22]** I'm particularly ugly but hey I am definitely poor hey M welcome to the stream so well I'm I'm I'm letting you know Zug as a friend that if you find a way to let go of the pity let go of I say Honestly though I would say it requires a bit more for the whole friend thing okay I that it's you don't just declare someone your friend I I have to explain to you how it works
**[17:59]** right I know I know how it works I know how it works I'm fully aware and that's why I'm letting you know that if you want to have um what do you call it if you want to have a good uh yield out of the relation then you do best not to put yourself above me because you find yourself below that's such a that's such an that's such that's such an ego from you though why why
**[18:25]** am I not allowed to do that like I I that is such a thing to say that's the whole that's the of it no it implies that you're allowed to do anything you're free to do anything but you will suffer the consequences what conse I don't use Force to anything I I don't use fors I don't force myself on people so I give you a choice instead when when you say you don't use fors you definitely
**[18:50]** you have the freedom you have the freedom if you put yourself above me you're going to find yourself below me me it's it's so simple that's okay that but that's only when I'm in like in your real if if I'm in your stream or in your Discord or whatever of course if I put myself above you I'm going to end up below because you are in [__] control of that anywhere else that doesn't count see that's
**[19:16]** what I meant yesterday when I said you need like get out of your little bubble because in the real world [__] you're [__] if you can't understand this in the real world it actually and Chad do you understand this Parable if he sees himself as above me if he looks down on me he will find himself in my point of view below me okay that's fine I don't you're free to think that like that's not that's
**[19:42]** not that's just that's just a fact of life okay okay this it's a fact of life it's a [__] social like if if you don't understand that that's why you have so much pain and suffering in your stupid life I have no painless I'm a very happy person that's why I actually gave you the advice stop smoking weed you [__] that's good you [__] now now you're doing it again now you're doing it again right the
**[20:08]** second the second someone is nice to you you start calling them [__] and like [__] and homos and and everything because you are dude you okay well you are too okay but yeah I'm [__] right I I at least you are to a degree [__] [__] you're insane and you're [__] and you don't know what's good because here's the thing I can understand what you're saying but you don't understand a single word I'm saying that's I
**[20:33]** know how you see me as a person you think I'm annoying you think I'm a troll you think I'm an [__] because to a degree I am an [__] that's part of my stick right so am I saying something that's wrong no but am I yes you think that I'm I'm wrong when I tell you sir that you have a problem with with weed and depression and the constant cycle of like getting trolled and then getting
**[20:59]** happy and then getting trolled again it's the same every day it was like that six years ago with retards I have to work with retardation I'm a special ed teacher dude okay and and it's just it's frustrating to be a special ed teacher all right okay that's it that's all I want to say it's frustrating to be a special education teacher to have to teach you simple basic concepts that you cannot understand that's frustrating that's why
**[21:27]** I call you [__] cuz my teachers also called me a [__] when I was good and so might as well call you [__] that's teachers were not very ni like I don't think teachers call their students retards it's not a way good well that's life maybe maybe that's how I became such a genius I know how it was in your school but my teachers definitely did not call their students retards okay maybe they should have called
**[21:49]** you a [__] you [__] because then they would end up successful like you perhaps maybe they become smart then they would they would always called half I had to I to prove I was smar I was always called a half braid so I had to prove I was smarter but I'm sure everybody said you are so smart you are so smart every cl to be a genius no but everybody said to you between you and me
**[22:14]** I'm actually a humble person you think you're a literal God I do not I'm a have you not have you not role played as [__] The Reincarnation of God before of course it's a [__] show dude so then why are you saying that's not true like he doesn't understand we're playing characters you you are I find it hard to believe you're playing a character you simply do have a massive ego you think you think I'm playing
**[22:47]** an angle here and then I'm just here to troll right but I me for once disting you can't distinguish reality from I'm having a serious ation with you and you're just that conflicts with a lot of things in your life I think and and you're just [__] all over it like it just goes to show that what everyone says about you is just true right when they say that you you you are incapable of actually taking
**[23:12]** advice you are incapable of becoming a better you don't practice what you preach that's your problem you tell everyone else to become better people to grow you act a [__] potato let's [__] grow boys meanwhile you're the only one who stacking you were going nowhere I'm not stagnant where are you going I'm not I'm going many places I'm actually like I I just quit alcohol that's a [__] step in the right direction when it comes to
**[23:39]** getting a better life that's why I was advising that maybe you should stop with the weed cuz when I stopped smoking weed it was better I only speak from experience if I had if I had continue to smoke weed I would probably still be as miserable as I was back then because it's a dependency and it's not good for you well I'm I'm happy for you that you stopped being an alcoholic from one day you see
**[24:05]** that's also that's this literal poison and it makes you depressed and it makes it's another dependency you spend a lot of money on it when you can't access it access it you get depressed it's horrible so when I call look when I call you like a weed smoker I'm not I'm not doing it with the intention of calling you a like a [__] drug addict or whatever I'm trying to tell you look if you if you
**[24:32]** could live life without it it would definitely be better for your psyche and and just your feeling of selfworth you would feel better fundamentally disagree you disagree you think that you're better off smoking weed and having that dependency and having it like [__] with your mind every time you run out of weed I'm not dependent on anything you are come on no no trust me I'm not dependent the F the first step towards getting better is
**[25:07]** the admitting that you have a problem and you do have a problem when it comes to weed you do have a problem no you're just you're just deflecting from the real problems that I have okay what are the real problems that you have I'm talking with it now I'm your I'm the problem I'm okay what happens when I'm gone like what happens if if I'm gone you don't think it's going to continue you think you think
**[25:32]** your life is magically going to become better when the troll like one thing that's not going to happen right the trolls will never stop that's another thing I was going to say earlier the stream thing if you really know what's good for you like deep down you let go of that and you do something else with your life because it's never going to the trolls are never going to go away uh you know it's true I
**[26:02]** don't think it's true no what what what would make the trolls go away magically like they will definitely not go away yeah I know people will assist and thus you are not going to be happy no I'll be happy you will you will have these cycles of getting happy for a couple of hours and something happens while you're streaming and you go back to the depression mood that you've been in all morning then you get happy
**[26:38]** again and then you go back to the depression mood not I'm not depressed I'm just you literally sit there talking about ending your life earlier today what do you call that if not depressed no no no no no no no no no no now you're just twisting words around oh my God you just spinning words salad it's it's I honestly don't I said the weight of the world is God have mercy on the [__] therapist that's
**[27:09]** going to have to sort out your [__] life because this is impossible I'm actually trying and it's just like talking to a wall it's horrible well it's because this is why I pity you well you need to calm down lady so okay I'm calm I'm calm sorry you got me for once I got worked up for sure I did and so so you have alcoholism and you not anymore I did okay so so you stopped that's
**[27:48]** good I'm happy for you when did you stop great it's wonderful when did you stop drinking it's about half a year ago okay that's good you know why I stopped no I I don't because because I could see it was a problem it was affecting my health it was affecting my mood I was getting nowhere you know how much progress I've made as a person in just these past six month months yeah it's amazing I stopped
**[28:16]** drinking when I was 24 like I don't know 12 years old you never you never had the problem so like you you can't really sit there and say oh I know how what it is to be an alcoholic you were never an alcoholic though right you know how it is to be an addict when it comes to weed though so that's way knows every aspect that that is a way you can sort of like compare it
**[28:35]** I guess and that's fine that's fine but you will you will then by extension admit that you do have a problem when it comes to weed just like I had when I was when I was drinking it was a problem for sure it was just because I do like whatever I don't have the same problems like you we are not the same how can you not understand this no I understand we didn't have the same we
**[29:08]** didn't have the same life so therefore you're not capable of giving me proper advice and everything you say is is kind of misguided and it doesn't hit the right place it doesn't hit the right place for you because you just want me to tell you because you're missing me with that you're missing me with that that's what I'm saying I'm missing you with that can you explain what you mean like I'm missing you because I'm not
**[29:33]** indulging your addiction like M and all those other good for nothing [__] that attempt to [__] like pretend they are here for you for you and to help you look the worst thing you can [__] do to a heroin addict is give him ask me a question what are you talking about dude missing me with that you're missing me together it's like a Pokemon you you Tred to put a something on and you missed the Pokemon
**[29:58]** I'm trying to put into perspective for you how someone enabling your addiction or your problems is not a good with the guy you missed me with all of that I honestly can't I honestly can't are you using me for content right now I don't know am I it seems you're sitting there like talking smack to your chat about me I'm not talking unbelievable you you have some [__] nerve you know that honestly this is why I
**[30:28]** will never stop trolling you this is why you because for once for [__] once I'm actually trying to be nice to you and help you and this is how you [__] repay that deed unbelievable you should be [__] ashamed of yourself Thomas Dale you are such a [__] dude I'm never helping you again I'm never going to behave like this towards you again for now from now on I'm just going to follow you around and call
**[30:53]** you a [__] pedophile wherever I go wherever I see you I'm going to be mean as [__] to you and if you one day commit suicide and I'm the reason you did that great I'll be [__] ecstatic I'll be happy I will [__] start drink I will open a bottle of champagne and I will celebrate your death man [__] totally unhinge